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Snagging list, take three…

October 20, 2008

Come the middle of August, and we still had issues.  This was the third, and most recent snagging list we submitted to the site manager at Oxley Woods.  Some things were outstanding from the previous two snag lists, and a few new items.  To be honest, there’s been a few more bugs and troubles, but those have been dealt with on a more ad-hoc basis.

It’s worth pointing out that now, more than two months after submitting this third snagging list, that some items still remain outstanding.  Many things seem to be “on order” or “back order” for week upon week at a time, and others, for example bathroom shelving, shower doors and such have either been supplied faulty, or even the wrong size in the case of the shelving, which we are still waiting on.

Anyway, make of it what you will, this is our third snagging list, again verbatim from that supplied to George Wimpey…

Items from July 14th list still outstanding:

Ground floor Utility Room:

Affected doors (scratches and marks) where removed over a week ago, still no sign of them being replaced.

Door badly repaired/bodged rather than being replaced as promised multiple times. Apparently “no doors on site” over a week ago, and still awaiting a replacement.

Work top edge still untidy/chipped.

Ground floor main living/dining/kitchen area:

Scratch on sink, front centre.

Scratches on worktop are still there, but getting worse also, very poor surface for a kitchen.

Fridge and freezer door warps. Apparently this is “how they are”, and replacement will not remedy this.

Scratched/marked panels on: Extractor fan hood, door to left of head, 2nd to left of hood, small end door, fridge door. All on “upper row” in kitchen.

Water marks on walls.

The house still appears to be leaking, this morning below the double plug by full length window is damp again and the tide mark certainly appears to be increasing in size.

First floor bathroom and hall area:

Two panels behind sink and toilet (opening panels) badly scratched. Apparently been on order for a month or more.

Only two shelves in built in cupboard, apparently further shelves been on order for several weeks.

First floor living room:

Dent in radiator. Replaced with another dented radiator, awaiting replacement, again “been on order” for several weeks after other replacements were dented before even being unpacked.

First floor bedroom:

Water marks following water leak on door facing wall and above window in two locations.

Second floor bathroom and hall:

Both panels (high large panels) damaged/chipped.

Gaps above bath, and beside window/panels beside the bath in the waterproof sealant have been fixed, but sealant is turning bright blue and peeling back in some places?!

Second floor middle bedroom:

Dented radiator. Replaced with another faulty radiator, apparently new one “on order”.

Second floor exterior:

Front bedroom window sill is in a very poor state, bubbles, flakes, and generally terrible. Worst of all windows.

Items from July 28th list still outstanding:

Ground floor exterior:

Plants trampled under kitchen window by workmen.

Marks on front driveway from cherry picker etc. Now worse (see later in list/covering letter).

Stain/dark window paint on several panels front and back.

First floor exterior:

Dark stain on lower edges of silver panels on balcony.

Juliet door frame chipped/scuffed by lock area.

Edge of silver panel next to red panel by juliet chipped and marked by edges.

First floor interior:

Balcony door becomes jammed and “sticky” in hot/warm weather, or whistles in the wind. Several repair attempts results in either sticky door or whistling in the wind.

Second floor exterior:

Window repair on front in particular in a poor state, not “unable to tell” quality as assured by Nigel.

Large silver and taupe panels on balcony stained / paint overspill.

New issues that have become apparent since last list submitted.

Radiator / towel rail in utility is rough/scratchy on top end pieces, could easily tear/pull on towel or clothes fabric. Bathroom radiators are perfectly smooth.

Large tar footprints on car driveway and “path” to door put there when path was having tarmac applied.

“Something” has been spilled onto the front path outside the front door and set hard, looks disgusting.

Our second snagging list

October 20, 2008

When we first moved into our Oxley Woods home we were advised by the site manager to live with the place a while before we submitted any snagging, to get to the know the place, and give ourselves chance to find any niggles or things we may not notice on first, second, or even third inspection.

Well, two weeks after submitting our first snagging list, we handed over the following list of additional problems, not all are technically “snagging”, but they were problems none the less, and it seemed like a logical place to put them down on paper.

Once again this is a verbatim copy of the list submitted to the site manager/George Wimpey, so apologies for any nonsense!

Ground floor exterior:

Unprotected open Stanley blade left unattended by front door when our five year old Son was around.

Plants have been trampled under kitchen window by workmen.

Above front door still looks unfinished, green panels visible.

Chips in upper silver panel to right of front door.

On lhs of the house the 2nd panel back has a corner chipped/unpainted/masked on the bottom left of the panel.

All front window sills in a terrible state, worse than ever.

Marks on front driveway from cherry picker etc.

Rear utility room window sill.

Stain on several panels front and back.

Mess on floor and children’s toys all around, mastik etc.

First floor exterior:

Above balcony door similar to front door, but is neater (no green panels show).

Dark stain on lower edges of silver panels on balcony.

Juliet door frame chipped/scuffed by lock area.

Red panel to left of Juliet (looking out) badly chipped in multiple locations.

Edge of silver panel next to red panel also chipped and marked.

Juliet sill in a very poor state.

Same for living and office room windows, look very poor, office window chipped during “repair”.

First floor interior:

Juliet door whistles in the wind if blowing the wrong way.

Balcony door becomes jammed and “sticky” in hot/warm weather.

Second floor exterior:

As other floors, window repairs terrible state, not “unable to tell” repairs as assured by Nigel.

Large silver and taupe panels on balcony badly stained.

Second floor interior:

One of our low energy “8000 hour” bulbs has stopped working already.  See here also.

Dent in rear bedroom radiator (centre top).

Balcony door howls in the wind, and is becoming increasingly hard to open/close. Abi is physically unable to close the door in hot weather, I have to use a great deal of force to get it to shut and lock. Worse than “jamming” first floor balcony door.

Our first snagging list

October 20, 2008

Well, this is a bit of a heart on the sleeve moment. We’ve had a lot of issues with our new eco home at Oxley Woods since we bought it, and, of course, we’ve submitted various snagging lists (aka snag lists) to the site manager at George Wimpey since we moved in. We’ve decided to share these lists on our site, partly on the basis that a “problem shared is a problem halved”, and also if other people are experiencing anything similar, they can take comfort that they’re not alone.

It may also be helpful to find common issues, and maybe get feedback as to whether our list of problems is more or less than you should expect from a brand new, award winning home on a flagship eco house development.

Please excuse the scruffy formatting and some of the poor English, this is a verbatim copy of the list we handed in on the 15th July, and some of it you might have to see to understand.  I’ve attached a few images to the post, but not all, as it’s laborious going over them all again!

Ground floor – Hall and utility room:

Utility room:

poor fit/gap above large storage area where black wood meets ceiling.

Scratch on large door with fitted metal drawers, touch up appears to have been attempted.

Scratch on large door with fitted metal drawers, touch up appears to have been attempted.

Chips on top of washing machine door.

Chunk taken out of base of door on inside of utility room.

Missing insulation on solar pipes.

Work top edge chipped where mates with large storage area.

Stiff door lock.

Stiff plug pull/release.

Hall: Front door howls in the wind

Front door warped or unevenly fitted top to bottom.

Possible: missing cover plates on side of plastic door bell cover in hall.

Ground floor kitchen, dining and living room:

Kitchen: Scratch on sink, front centre.

Scratch below window on work surface.

Fridge and freezer doors uneven fit top to bottom.

Scratched/marked panels on: Extractor fan hood;

Door to left of hood, blemished and scratched.

2nd to left f hood scratched/marked.

Fridge door.

Small end door scratched. All on “upper row”.

Water damaged shelf below sink

Window lock does not operate smoothly, no “spring return” as in other rooms.

Sliding door: top right you can see the interior wood panel etc, looks unsightly/unfinished?

Water marks above full length window on both sides, around double plug, on ceiling and wall following leak.

Large chunk out of floor in kitchen area.

All lower level doors in kitchen are not lined up, uneven gaps etc.

First floor bathroom and hall area:

Two panels behind sink and toilet (opening panels) badly scratched.

Only two shelves in built in cupboard (should be four as in showrooms!?)

No fixing for shelving at all.

First floor living room:

Glass panel outside Juliet window faulty, noted well before completion, still not replaces.

Dent in radiator.

First floor bedroom:

Water marks following water leak on door facing wall and above window in two locations.

Second floor bathroom and hall:

Both panels (high large panels) damaged/chipped.

Lock was fitted upside down! (Fixed so I could use the bathroom!).

Gaps above bath, and beside window/panels beside the bath in the waterproof filler.

Gap below shower window towards tap end, doesn’t seal water tight.

Landing: Balcony door sticky, hard to close, possibly warped outwards towards base.

Leaking through lock. (hopefully fixed).


Second floor middle bedroom:

Dented radiator.

Second floor rear bedroom:

Rough edge/poorly fitted high level window (underneath).

Water marks on wall following water leak.

Ground floor exterior:

Gas meter cover lock doesn’t work, fitted in wrong direction

Water drips from full length window over a day after even light rain (not seen on other houses)?

Rear sliding door sill/step chipped/damaged in more than one location.

Some panels appear poorly fitted.

Area above front door looks messy and unfinished (previously mentioned).

Excessive gap below kitchen window besides front door (reveals green panelling).

First floor exterior

Juliet window balcony surround in a terrible state. Scratched, untidy etc.

Windows in poor state, even worse after bodged work as part of leak fix attempts.

Finish above balcony door is same as ground floor front door, untidy, unfinished appearance.

Second floor exterior:

Poor repairs and poor state of window surrounds.

Middle bedroom window bodged, and also chipped, messy.

Rear bedroom window poor state of repair.

Exterior generally is in quite poor order, window surrounds and such. Made worse following heavy handed and apparently not requested mastic work on side and rear window frames!

Tar very much for that.

October 20, 2008

Or not, as the case may be. Unfortunately it seems we’ve been rather cursed with the carefulness and quality of some of the workmanship on several jobs completed on our house, especially since we’ve been in residence, however this one we couldn’t quite believe.

It seems that when applying the top layer of tarmac to the path, the workmen couldn’t keep themselves, or their great big boots, off of our block paving work! This happened on the 11th August. We then had a further mess made of our driveway when we had some work carried out in the garden, and at some point some epoxy resin was spilt on our path (also block paved), and our plants were trampled when our windows were being “fixed”, again.

We’re now towards the latter part of November, and the remedial work is yet to be done on any of this, despite many assurances it will be done “by the end of the week” or “today”… You can’t really take anything you’re told as gospel unfortunately, but it would be nice if it was cleaned up and sorted properly soon, it’s been over two months since the tar was walked on the driveway, plenty of time you’d have hoped.

We’ll be sure to update when this finally gets done.

When is a new door not a new door?

October 19, 2008

One of our more disappointing experiences since moving into Oxley Wood started off as a relatively small item on our first snagging list, but that’s to dishonesty and perhaps a certain level of misunderstanding, it became one of several factors that undermined our faith in the team working here at Oxley Woods.

It all started with our first snagging list, which we submitted on the 15th July 2008, the day after we finally moved into our home. One small item on the list was the utility room door. At the base of the door, inside, was a chunk taken out. The damage to the door could have been caused by anything, but it was a relatively large chunk, about an inch across, and one of those things that once you’ve seen it, it’s going to bug you forever, and it shouldn’t be there.

We were assured by the site manager that the door would be replaced. They’re supplied ready sprayed, so a repair wouldn’t match up, and it’s easy enough to replace, so it would be done. Simple.

At the end of July, while the site manager was away leaving a person we assume is an assistant or right hand man in charge, work was carried out on the door. However, someone decided to take it upon themselves to fill, paint, and poorly repair the door rather than replace it. They didn’t tell us this, we had to find out for ourselves, and it was obvious from the first time we looked at the door.

Not surprisingly, we were extremely unhappy about this. We’d been told by management/supervisory level people from both Wimpey and Wood Newton this door would be replaced, and here we were looking at a poorly repaired door instead, unbelievable.

Anyway, three weeks later we take a long weekend break away, and while we’re away the door is apparently replaced. We returned late at night, and being the sceptic this experience has turned me into I went to look to see what hadn’t been done. But lo-and-behold, the dodgy door was gone! We were tired, but pleased to have had a short break, and delighted that a replacement door had been put in place while we were away.

The real anger, and the reason for the title of this entry, kicked in the following morning. As I took my first trip up the stairs in the daylight I was gob smacked by what I saw on the first floor bathroom. I shock with anger and my head was spinning with disbelief. The old, damaged and repaired door from downstairs had been replaced… with the bathroom door from upstairs?! Oh, and they’d chipped the door frame a little in the process, just for good measure.

I’m ashamed to admit I lost my temper a little when I spoke to the site manager later that morning, questioning the apparent belief that I was not only an idiot, but a visually impaired idiot at that. The voice on the end of the phone spoke back with no small degree of disbelief, when the Wood Newton rep arrived later, he too couldn’t believe it, but the door was there for all to see. He even said he saw the workmen carrying a new door to the house, so where that ended up, I have no idea?!

Understanding their disbelief, I supplied them with a couple of high resolution photographs of the door in it’s two positions, downstairs, and turned around and moved upstairs. Shocking, underhanded, and deceptive were how I’d describe that piece of workmanship!

It took several weeks for a replacement to be put in, most things take a long time to come in to site, which can add to the frustration. The new door, which I witnessed them install, is a slightly different type to the others in the house, the handles are the same, but the end pieces (best way I can describe them) were the lock and latch extend from are different, and irritatingly it’s also shorter, not by much, but by enough you can tell, than all the other doors.

Should we expect it to be like for like, should it be the same distance from the floor, is it worth them “replacing” the door for third (or is that forth?!) time. Who knows. But the tale of the utility (then bathroom) door encapsulates a great deal of our experience here at Oxley Woods. A small problem, becoming progressively worse, and never just put right in the most simple and simplistic way. If the door had just been swapped, as promised back in July, then it would have just been a minor item on a snagging list.