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Water through a wall not seen in a year

July 12, 2009

Overnight we had quite a bit of rain. It didn’t seem to rain hard but it was drifting rain being blown all over by the wind, coming, as usual, from a south-westerly direction.

This morning we awoke to see something we’d not seen since July 2008, when we first saw water coming through the walls and windows of our Oxley Woods eco house… Water half way down the wall in our bedroom on the top floor.

Not seen you in a while


Apparently this is caused by water coming in through the high level window above, making its way down behind the plasterboard until it hits something (a horizontal join or wood) when it pools and seeps through the wall. The water mark was quite big, about the size of my hand, but it did dry fairly quickly in the sun that followed.

This window has been “fixed” previously, and as I stated earlier we’ve not seen water on this wall for over a year. This just goes to show the on/off hit and miss nature of both the fault(s) with the design and/or construction here and the fixes which have been applied so far.

The holes in bedroom four (top floor) were also soaked through the wood and plasterboard this morning, but all other places where we’ve seen water in the past seemed to be dry to the eye and touch.

Plans changing without notice. Again.

June 22, 2009

So today we were due to carry on with the various water leak tests that were underway on Friday.

Only instead at 8:30 Aiden from Wood Newton who was the senior staff member on site on Friday was nowhere to be seen, nor the other two Wood Newton workers who were aiding with the hose and Trespa panel removals on Friday.

Apparently, between when ourselves and the site manager from George Wimpey left it as “we’ll carry on on Monday, starting with checking and trying to find the source of the water ingress at the front on the ground floor”, plans changed to something along the lines of “we’ll not bother coming back, but feel free to stick clear silicone on the Trespa window reveal edges and take a look at the other window (at the rear). Which had previously been visually inspected anyway.

This really is a pathetic way to carry on by Wood Newton. You could see that Scott wasn’t fully in the know, and didn’t know what we had been told on Friday afternoon with regards continuing proper testing on Monday. You could also see that Wes, the George Wimpey site manager in Nigel’s absence, was also clearly annoyed by the change of plans that he and us knew nothing of until when the testing was due to continue on Monday morning.

To us this pretty much sums up the Wood Newton attitude and approach to trying to find proper, long term resolutions to the several-fold inherent problems they seem to have created on site either through bad design, bad construction, or a combination of the two.

We’re awaiting a talk with the George Wimpey site manager(s) tomorrow (Tuesday) to find out how things are going to progress from here.

A day of disquiet

June 19, 2009

It’s approaching 4pm on Friday and the guys from Wood Newton are just finishing putting the Trespa panels back on the side of our Oxley Woods eco house.

Today has been a very stressful day, and although more faults and problems have been found, it feels like we’re only scratching the surface, and that any genuine solutions seem a long way off.

Following on from this mornings work attention moved to the front of the property and bedroom two on the top floor. This was harder to pinpoint, and once again several holes were drilled on the inside walls to see what could be seen, as water was liberally sprayed, in different locations and at different rates, across, over and around the window.

Once again water could be seen coming in via the actual window frame, in the same way as on bedroom four. The channel where the Trespa settles into hasn’t been “sealed properly”, or whatever, and water is coming in down, into and through the window, and eventually through the interior wall and plasterboard and paint.

Then it appears that despite two previous “fixes” of caulking and then clear silicone enough water is coming through the window itself by the “door” panel, then making its way across the window/OSB/plasterboard and showing in the middle of the window. Which isn’t very reassuring, considering the new guy on site from Wood Newton (or at least, new to us) was suggesting the “fix” for the problem where Trespa meets window is basically stuffing it with clear silicone sealant.

While lengthy investigation of the top window was underway it turned out that the water being applied to, around, and over the widow and where the balcony joins wall had made its way down from the second floor to come through the ceiling above the kitchen window on the ground floor. This seemed to throw another curve ball and had everyone scratching heads and seeming completely unsure as to where the water is coming through, especially considering that window has got the Resistit flash banding “fix” as well as a “belt and braces” layer of Tyvek over the top of that.

So, the new plan is to take off all the panels on the front of the house on Monday and try and work out what the hell is going on with the water that is STILL appearing above the kitchen window.

I have to say I feel like we’re not really getting anywhere fast, totally downbeat, and just thoroughly miserable about the entire situation.

We’re half way there…

June 19, 2009

Well, actually, not quite half way.

So today is yet another “big day”, another day finding and plugging leaks, another day of our exterior panels being stripped off, another day of disruption, another day of lost sleep for our 16 month old daughter, another unproductive working day, and another day of seeing our house taken apart inside and out while workmen scratch their heads and try to find problems then fathom out solutions.

The first area of investigation has been water ingress in our living/dining room above and around the full length window. This has been put down to a few… apologies, train of through broken by phantom smoke/fire alarms ringing through the property… Anyway, this has been put down to a few possible causes, they’ve been sealed and all the other work…

It has now been put down to the fact the door directly above for our first floor Juliet balcony is letting rain water seep through below the door, down through the floor and showing on the ceiling and down the window frame below. We’ve seen it, it seems a good theory. We have no idea on the planned fix, because it’s all apparently been designed and fitted correctly. Work that one out, doors designed to not offer a full weather seal. Baffling.

Then moving up to the small bedroom four on the top floor. It seems the problem is at least two fold. We’ve had several holes drilled into the wall in our daughters room to see where water tracks when the widow area was sprayed with a hose.

Problem one appears to be largely by design. The windows have channels vertically notched into them where the Trespa goes into. This is apparently sealed and engineered so water cannot get through. Only it is. The suggested solution is to patch this area with clear silicone sealant.

The second, and possibly third issue like in the window construction itself. The timer has expanded and contracted due to the weather (amazing I know) and this has apparently given rise to cracks at joins in the frame, at junctions between two or more edges, where water can also enter through the frame. Also, it appears that the weather seals have been poorly installed and trap any water coming through, and allow it to pool, and pass over into the inside of the window frame. Again, it seems that simply patching and plugging these problems is the favoured option of the representatives on site.

Next up we believe is a water test using a hose of the kitchen window area(s), followed by working on the window on the top floor at the front of bedroom two.

Seriously stressful day, and nobody seems entirely pleased with the discovers being made.

Another day of panels off, water on, fingers crossed

June 18, 2009

Tomorrow has been scheduled as another day of disruption as the guys from Wood Newton and George Wimpey search for possible entry points for the rain water that is, somehow, still finding its way through our walls and/or windows of our Oxley Woods eco house.

So, starting from around 8:30am we’re going to have panels stripped off, and water sprayed over the property, from top to bottom. This time the water may have dye added to it to help track what goes where.

We hope they find something new, as they all seem baffled by how water is still coming in at a number of places, but it has to be said that we’re not hopeful. Let’s face it, it rained more than once, heavily, between November and June, but it took that long for some serious water ingress to appear, it seems very hit and miss and temperamental.

Anyway, we’ll be updating here with any new news. We’re not really even sure what we’re hoping they will or will not find. We just want this ordeal over with, and to feel confident all possible avenues have been explored, and everything possible has been done to ensure long term happiness and dryness in our home!

As an aside, we had a visit the day before yesterday. We had workmen in adding insulation/sticky lagging/cladding, weird stuff to the insides of our eco hat. Apparently, in some case, condensation and cold bridging can get very bad, so as part of their continuous improvement programme, and to avoid any such problems appearing, they’re putting this sticky backed insulation on the metal parts inside the eco hat.