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Live and let dye at Oxley Park

June 25, 2009

After being seriously messed about by Wood Newton earlier in the week, and another decent meeting with the George Wimpey site manager on Tuesday another full day of disruption followed yesterday (Wednesday) as more water testing was underway on our eco house.

I could ramble on for ages about how unhappy we are with the attitude of Aiden from Wood Newton, how rude he was to Abi because she actually wanted to be in on their conversations about OUR property (stomping about saying “I can’t work like this”… and worse), and how little time they spent actually spraying the house with water in various locations. For example, ten minutes on one window, so I asked if they thought that was enough to really simulate a decent amount of rainfall “How long do you want us to spray it for then” came the reply from PR guru Aiden.

Anyway, the long and the short of it is that only one thing was established, it seems that water is coming in through the reveals and into and through the window frame in the full length window in the living/dining room. This to us seems to be an inherent and rather stupid oversight and design flaw leaving no room for the slightest deviation in manufacture, and also not suitable for weather, because in the words of Aiden when it gets hot and cold it will expand and can open up new gaps.

The rest of the testing focused on the front of the property and not one of the known points of water ingress, some witnessed as recently as Friday last week revealed themselves. This is part of the problem, one day there’s a leak in one location, the next, due perhaps to weather changes or the water Gremlins living inside the walls, the leaks have moved somewhere else. This doesn’t help the Wood Newton and George Wimpey guys finding the various faults and flaws, but it also is no help to us having our home continually pulled apart and tested on.

The only thing that did appear was two NEW water patches on the kitchen ceiling. These are in a location towards the front of the property where we have never before witnessed any water ingress, tide marks, or moisture. Unfortunately these appeared relatively late in the day at 15:30 after about 115 minutes of spraying the windows on the top floor. Weirdly, the moisture metre and finger tests in the holes drilled in our walls revealed NO dampness anywhere near the windows on the second or first floor or anywhere leading the water marks on the ceiling. Water is somehow penetrating the walls and working into the property. But still, nobody knows how.

The plan is that first thing this morning (usually meaning 8:30, but there’s no sign yet of anyone gathering outside, and it’s five to nine) they will begin again with spraying ONLY the first floor of the property with water injected with dye. This will continue as long as feasible to see if the water marks re-appear. If and when they do appear, they will track them back using holes, the moisture metre, a small probing camera etc. to attempt to find the root cause of at least these leaks.

So far it would appear we have faulty windows, inherently faulty windows in several locations, which were fitted using an inherently faulty method (now “fixed” with flash banding using Resistit) in addition to other, unknown faults leading to this further water ingress.

Nine thirty meeting going as expected…

June 10, 2009

Yesterday around five we had a visit from Wood Newton saying they wanted to call in tomorrow morning (now) at 9:30 to look at the leaks and so on.

As is par for the course, it’s 10am and we’ve seen or heard nothing, despite seeing one of the Wood Newton managers go by the house just after 9:30.

We’ve got a lot of contacts to make anyway so I’m not sitting on my hands, but it’s bad, if expected form.

We’re still leaking

June 9, 2009

Horrible, horrible discovery this past Sunday morning. Our eco house is still leaking, considerably so.

8th July 2008 is the first time we witnessed rain water coming through our internal walls and ceilings. Almost a year later and our George Wimpey eco house, constructed using materials such as wood and recycled paper, is still being soaked through.

Sunday morning we found water coming through in one of the upstairs bedrooms, cracking and bubbling the paint work, and above our kitchen window, again, in more than one location. One point the water is coming through in the kitchen is the section we previously had our balcony removed to “fix”.

So very distressed and upset about the whole situation.

We’ve been in touch with George Wimpey customer services concerning the leaks, ongoing snagging issues and the window which cracked over the weekend. Following a visit this morning from a despondent and rather non-committal George Wimpey site manager we’re expecting at least one manager from Wood Newton to pay a visit Wednesday morning.

We can’t think of anything they could say or do to put things right, but they should at least witness the water stains, damage to paint and so on first hand. Even if they’re willing to try and fix this seemingly inherent problem they certainly don’t seem able, and we’re so very, very unhappy about it all.

Positive meeting and a step in the right direction

November 5, 2008

I should work for the red tops with such pun mastery as this.

Anyway, today the meeting that never was, twice, finally took place.  Almost all were present and correct, representing the builders corner were the site manager, customer service manager from Taylor Wimpey, architect (but from Taylor Wimpey and NOT from Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners) and the director from Wood Newton.  Representing the householders corner, me, my wife, and our baby (our elder child made his excuses, something about legal requirements and education?).

The meeting seemed pretty positive, John from Wood Newton and our site manager were pretty much leaders of the meeting, explaining to the customer service manager and architect what our problems had been in so far as rain water entering the property, and what measures had been taken to resolve the situation.  I also learned from early conversation that the tape used on the house isn’t in fact by Tyvek as previously informed, but a completely different material, I’m waiting on details, but apparently it’s an aluminium based product, due to be used in the construction of the 2012 velodrome.

While the Trespa was not removed and the work beneath checked, it was agreed that the leaking on that side of the house appears to be cured, it’s been raining on and off for several days and no sign of water, on that side of the house anyway.  We are going to be provided with a side elevation of the house to mark on which panels have been damaged etc, before they can be replaced.

The same work is now due to be carried out on the front and back elevations as soon as possible, probably starting next Monday, but possibly as early as the end of the week.  I’m guessing Monday.  At the same time, remedial work will be carried out on those panels that are out of line or poorly fitted, most notably surrounding the Juliet balcony.

I also asked those present to check out the water on the upper bedroom window, and that is confirmed as condensation (a huge relief).  Basically because that is the warmest room in the house, and it’s on a corner of two panes of glass, it’s very much a cold spot in the room, which does lead to condensation.  There’s loads of it though, so we’re going to have to do something more than a pot of salt do dehumidify that room over winter!

I asked as many questions as I thought I could get away with, apparently only us and one other property who are in a similar position so far as orientation and protection from the elements have experienced water ingress like this.  I was pushing the point not just for our sakes, but for other residents and potential residents, about how, if the house is “built to spec” is it getting wet inside.  To be honest, they didn’t really have an answer for that, could be settling and movement, but I couldn’t disagree that the materials and methods used to seal one side of the house certainly seem to be doing the trick.

While we had a house full I thought it a good time to mention the disconcertingly bendy step, and to state my belief that the flexible filler previously applied probably wasn’t up to the task of securing stairs.  Not surprisingly it was agreed it needed a proper fix.  Unfortunately this will require another hole to be cut in our walls so the workmen and get under the stair to sort it out.  As much as I have every faith that the repair of the wall will be spot on, it’s still painful to see your new home undergoing surgery.

Subcontractors sent by Nuaire arrived later in the day to work out why our eco-hat has been going crazy.  They rather unconvincingly (never once looking at the data logger) diagnosed some incorrect settings on the fan speeds causing the problem, and made the required adjustments.  It seems to be working, but it’s an intermittent fault so we’ll have to wait and see.

The dry liner and his boss also came around and looked at our previously mentioned bulging wall, and have had another go at skimming and filling to smooth everything over.  Until it’s painted over (which wont be until the work on the leaks is complete) it just looks a mess, but here’s hoping it’ll do the job.  I asked if there was any way to cut the bulge back, rather than fill out around it, and was informed in no uncertain terms this cant be done due to the nature of the build.

There’s also an update on our warping fridge and freezer doors, Symphony (the manufacturers) are going to come and take a look, and have to work out what’s going wrong.  This is a common fault, and even doors that have been replaced on other properties on site are bending again.  So until they work out how to stop the bending, we’re going to have to put up with warped doors.  Only problem I can see here is the colour being dark red may fade, and then look dreadful when the new doors are in place.  Hope not!

I also raised my concern about the number of nail/screw heads popping out all over the property.  I was told this is normal and to be expected, and probably wont settle down until about a full year.  Joy.

I had a decent chat with all the team at the house about the problems we’ve had, about the site, about what they’re doing and I found out a few interesting bits and pieces concerning water and air tightness, thermal imaging and other testing that is carried out periodically on the Oxley Woods development, apparently our neighbours house had the full monty done to it.  I couldn’t help but quip they should have done ours instead, could have saved a lot of hassle and heartache.

Anyway, before I start rambling and waffling, I got a decent amount of insight from the team today, and I should be getting some more soon.  I’m keen to learn and understand as much as possible about how these houses are put and held together, the technology and the testing involved, as it’s a subject I’m interested in anyway, and even more so since I live in one of the properties.  Credit where it’s due, my impression of John from Wood Newton has completely turned around now I’ve actually had chance to discuss the matter with him, while there was a certain amount of people protecting their position at the meeting, it was generally open and well mannered.

Big meeting scheduled tomorrow

November 4, 2008

So it seems things are being taken ever more seriously by those involved in the design and construction of our Oxley Woods eco house, and finally the meetings that never happened are due, again, to happen tomorrow.

Confirmed today, just to be sure, tomorrow we can expect to be visited by management and staff from Taylor Wimpey, Wood Newton, and Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners, due at around 10:30am to discuss the situation with the property.

We’re not sure exactly what discussions will be going on between them, and then between them and us, or even how many of them will want to talk to us, following the previous no show and no wait, but I personally would love to talk to them all about what the state of play is.

I’m not entirely sure what can come of this meeting, as it stands we’ve had one side of the house completely stripped, patched, taped, sealed and refinished externally, with two more due to be worked on. First impressions of this meeting were that it would be Wimpey management making sure they were happy with the solution to the rain penetration put forward (and into action) by Wood Newton. God knows what will happen if they’re not?!

As mentioned in our big post on this before, one of our concerns is that our seriously leaky eco house is, according to the people on site, built to spec. Therefore it would appear to be not a faulty house build, but an inadequate house design and/or build. Which is why I feel getting all the team together is an important thing to do, not only for our sake, but for current and future residents elsewhere on the Oxley Woods development.

I’m concerned slightly by the fact that when researching the Tyvek tape that appears to be the only thing between us and rain water running into the home is tape that appears to only have a ten year guaranteed. What then?!

As an aside, Nuaire are also due to check out our temperamental eco hat. The dry liner person didn’t appear to day either, maybe he’ll be around tomorrow too? Could be a busy day in terms of the future of our home.

Anyway, fingers crossed for tomorrow, I think we have to ask some serious questions, should the opportunity arise, so we know exactly where we stand with our sub-standard house, and where we go from here.