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Halved the cost to insure our eco house!

June 18, 2009

Some good news among the grim is always good, and it seems we may be on the brink of making considerable savings with our buildings and contents insurance.

Last year we found it nigh on impossible to find someone to insure our eco house. Timber frame is the first issue, not clad in a traditional method or materials is pretty much a straight no-no, and even if you can get past that hurdle, the roof being partially flat and glad with a PVC membrane just about eliminates any remaining insurance company options.

I’m not sure how everyone else on the development has handled this, I’m sure if you just ticked boxes and didn’t ask too many difficult questions you may be able to be insured with “regular” insurers under regular insurance schemes, but I’m just not prepared to take that risk! Last year we went with the Halifax and I have to say the buildings insurance cost a small fortune.

This year, after phoning around several companies, it appears we will be moving on to Adrian Flux specialists household insurance. We’ve used Adrian Flux on and off for our car insurance for years, we first came across them when looking to insure a modified Mini many moons ago. Their insurance quote, with all things taken into account and fully covered, came back as less than half the cost of the same or equivalent cover from Halifax. Yep, you read that right, we’ve HALVED our insurance costs, saving hundreds of pounds a year in the process. Very, very pleased.

This is an important issue that we certainly didn’t consider until we were well into the process of buying a house on the Oxley Woods development. We should have known that, in general, insurers seem behind the curve so far as modern building methods and materials are concerned, but even a year on we’ve been surprised how difficult it has been to get good cover at a reasonable cost. Hopefully the big guns in the insurance world will soon catch up. There’s 145 houses planned on Oxley Woods, and who knows how popular many of the technologies used here will become, so there’s a growing, if niche market here for the taking.

Well at least it’s proving educational

June 16, 2009

You may (but probably) haven’t noticed that the “links” section, in particular “official sites” has been growing rapidly over recent days and weeks.

I’ve been doing my best, with an absence of information from George Wimpey and Wood Newton (as promised back in October) to find out what I can about the materials used in construction, who did what, and also who supplies the materials. I’ve wanted to find a lot of this out of curiosity, and to check manufacturers claims of longevity, application and so on, and also for insurance purposes, as I really don’t want us to be un or under insured by not giving out the correct information to insurance companies.

I’ve now found the suppliers (where possible the manufacturer rather than a reseller) of most services and materials supplied on the Oxley Woods development. I’ve found the roof cladding manufacturer, skylight manufacturer, the manufacturer of the door and window locks and hooks and the lock cylinders. The manufacturer of the outer “green” panels (underneath the Trespa) who are also the manufacturer of the recycled paper based insulation, and more besides.

It’s been very interesting, I like a bit of research, and I hope residents and also other “interested parties” find the links provided below useful, as an owner of one of these eco houses you never know when they may come in useful, especially in the dim and distant future. The links are below the rest of the page content, click here to jump straight there.

Mixed start to the week

June 16, 2009

Bit of a hit and miss, good and bad start to the week for us and our Oxley Woods eco house.

On the good side we had the guys around Yesterday to fix the damaged ducting behind our medicine cabinet which has meant the extraction part of our eco hat has never been properly working since July last year. They re-routed the pipe and tied it back at the same time so it wouldn’t be damaged when replacing the cabinet. So glad to get that sorted.

We also had a Nuaire rep come around to re-commission the eco hat after the pipes/ducting had been connected properly. Unfortunately it wasn’t smelling so badly as usual (hardly at all) and he could not find anything (again) causing the whiff. So it looks like our eco hat is now “as good as it gets” in terms of water warming, ventilation and filtration. But it still smells.

On the downside this morning, following some rain yesterday afternoon and then again during the night, we have more signs of water ingress. We called in the site manager as soon as possible, and he had a look around. There is/was a small, additional water stain above our bedroom one at the rear of the house, and more disheartening it was also damp around our full length window on the exposed side elevation.

The site manager is finding it, in his own words “baffling” and is going to talk to John Green from Wood Newton. To be honest, as you might have gathered or expect at this stage, we don’t have much faith in any “final solution”.

Just another day in our Oxley Park eco house

June 12, 2009

Today work commenced at about 11:30 on the house, starting with correcting a mistake we noticed last night were an external baton was put in the wrong place, which meant the Tresda couldn’t be properly attached until it was sorted.

Following this, and just completed, the workmen from Wood Newton went up to inspect the window frame and surround in bedroom two at the front of the property, were it appears water may have been entering from any number of locations and has affected the paint and plaster on the inside.

On inspection, and to no great surprise, according to the guys from Wood Newton the problem probably lies with the shoddy repairs we’ve had carried out (twice) on the window frame, which by design are not good enough to keep water out. That, and the fact the frames appear to be separating and coming apart at the joins. Fantastic. The frames have all been filled and repainted quite poorly, but due to weather (?!) the filling and paint is cracking and coming away from the windows and this is, according to the Wood Newton guys, most likely how the water is passing through the frames, and tracking across to the various points it it showing inside the property. That and the fact the frames are themselves separating at the joins in the corners.

They are now moving onto bedroom four, at the side of the house, were we saw a great deal of water coming through at the weekend, to carry out the same basic inspection.

Yesterday we learned a few things and didn’t really have our faith restored in the properties, their design, their construction, or George Wimpey’s (or Wood Newton’s) ability to properly sort things out. The “solution” for the front of the house were had water coming through above the kitchen window in two locations on two walls and ceilings (it is a corner window) was to remove a load of shoddy filler that we’ve been unhappy about since it was put in during December 2008 and then to cover the lower section of house between the ground and first floor windows (including the balcony facade) with Tyvek, stuck in place with their own self adhesive tape, then put the batons in place over the top of the tyvek. The logic behind this is that all rain will go over the waterproof Tyvek Supro material and drop/run away from the property as it should be doing by design anyway. But isn’t.

During the repairs several holes were cut into the house (cores) to check the paper based insulation. Basically the holes were cut through the green Panelvent outer “skin” and sticking in a finger the check the paper is still “fluffy” as it should be. Somewhat to our relief, it appeared to be OK. These holes were then patched over with the Tyvek tape.

To us this does feel like they’re just putting plasters over wounds they can’t heal. Instead of discovering why the buildings let in water, and at so many locations, and actually fixing the “core” issues, they appear to just make every effort to divert the water away from problem areas, even if they’re not 100% certain where the problem areas really are. As an example the water is coming through above the windows. Above the windows has been “fully waterproofed” using apparently very high quality materials (Resistit E SK). Now, no matter where that water is coming from, it shouldn’t be getting through a highly tested, 50 year guaranteed, relatively wide band of flashing material. Nobody could answer why or how this was happening, just that they believed that applying Tyvek to the front of the house would stop the water getting around to those places in the first place and stop the flow of water. Not very reassuring.

As usual we’ve got a tonne of photographs but I’ve not yet had time to view or edit those to share on here.

Meeting, what meeting?

June 10, 2009

We called and managed to get through to Nigel, George Wimpey site manager some time around 3pm when Abi (my wife) put her finger on one of the leaks and came away with a wet painted finger. Rain was heavy today, although quite brief, but clearly more than this property can take.

When he arrived we went over things, we’ve found more water coming through, so it’s two places above the kitchen window, one place in the bedroom one/office room, one place in bedroom four to the right and below the window and another in bedroom two at the front of the house, below the window.

Worst of all, it turns out that while Peter from Wood Newton is telling us meetings have been arranged and Nigel and Scott from Wood Newton were coming over this never got through to Nigel or Scott. Pathetic, completely pathetic. Nigel was, unsurprisingly, not happy about the situation, or the fact we’ve been all but dropped since Wood Newton decided to tackle customer care themselves.

Nigel is as unsure as Wes as to where to go from here, although he wants to take ownership of the situation from Wood Newton. Tomorrow, if it doesn’t rain too much, we’re going to have to have parts of the property stripped again to inspect the flash banding which is, as it stands, “the fix” for water ingress. Beyond that there is no plan at the moment.

Nigel says we are right to be concerned about the house being wet inside the structure over the course of an entire year. He said the timber frame itself is treated as it is designed to get wet, dry, and breath. It is also exposed during construction, so needs to be able to take the water. But he said the plasterboard could be affected badly and the insulation, based on recycled paper, could also be badly affected and will need to be tested.

What a horrid waste of our time and energy today was, thanks to what seem to be bare faced lies from Peter from Wood Newton. Disgraceful to treat people in that way.